Imbalanced Guard, can someone explain the use of this, with ...

- Unbalanced Guard "doubles" your numeric armor value, so it protects better against harder hitting mobs but it also prevents any mitigation ... ForumIndex»GameplayHelpandDiscussion»ViewThreadViewStaffPostsPostReply ImbalancedGuard,cansomeoneexplaintheuseofthis,withjust%passives,notarmourcount. PrettymuchallthegooglelistingsaboutImbalancedGuard,onlytalkaboutArmorcount,10k-50karmor&soon.Eventhentheydon'tlistinasimplymanner,whentonotgetthisnode,beityouhave10k-50karmor. Theysaiddon'tgetitifyourdamagereductiongoesabove50%,whichstilldoesn'thelp,asananswer.Iguessitdependsonwhatenemyyourfighting. Stillasageneralruleofthumb.I'mnotreallyinterestedingearstats,weighingmydecisiontogetthis.Ijustwanttobasemyanswer,onthearmor%alone,whilethrowingthetypeofgearoutofthetopic. So,asaroughdraftestimate.Howmuchpercentofarmornodesonthetree,isgenerallytoomuch,forthisnodetobeuseful? Let'ssayI'mbuildingadualwielderwith140%-200%armorpercentagesonthepassivetree,wouldthisnodebeworthit?Orisitforpeopleunder140%armorpassivenodes?Ifso,howlow?When'stoohightogetit? Expectingaanswerlikethis;"Ifyouhaveover100%armoronthepassivetree,don'tgetit"ect. Ultimatelywhat,I'mgettingat,isifanyonecananswerthisquestion,withoutthrowingout10k-50kb.s.numbers/withoutmentioninggearvalues,&justtellmeifit'suseful,basedonpassivetreearmorpercentages%alone. Eveniftheestimateisroughasheck.Withouttellingme"itdependsontheenemyordependsonyourgear".Justtreepercent%only? 20vs20grouppvpupdates(forthemaingame,notroyal).Siegevssiegemaps.Randomized&shuffledpassivetrees.Biggertrees+30pointupdates. Largetownshosting100+people;bardtaverns.Afieldneartownforguildevents.NothideoutslikeWoW-Garrisons.OutsidelikeRagnarokOnline.LasteditedbyPrairieTutankaonSep18,2021,1:40:56AMLastbumpedonSep18,2021,4:28:27AM PostedbyPrairieTutankaonSep18,2021,1:35:51AMQuotethisPost Youareaskingthewrongquestion,sonobodywillbeabletoansweritthewayyouwantto. Theonlyimportantthingyouneedtoknowisthis: -Armornevermitigatesmorephysdmgthan10%ofitsnumericvalue. Soifyouhad10karmor,itcanonlymitigateupto1kphysdmg. -Theingametooltipshowsthearmormitigationassumingyouarehitbyatrashmobandthereforecantbereliedon.Anythingthatisntatrashmobwillhitmuchharderandsincearmorcannevermitigatemorethan10%ofitsnumericvalue,thetooltip%mitigationturnsouttobewronginthoseinstancesandwillbewaylowerthanthetooltipshows. -UnbalancedGuard"doubles"yournumericarmorvalue,soitprotectsbetteragainstharderhittingmobsbutitalsopreventsanymitigationbeyond50%ofthedmg,soitsworseagainsttrashmobs. Thatsthebottomline. PostedbyOrbaalonSep18,2021,2:03:30AMQuotethisPost TounderstandtheKeystoneufirstneedtounderstandhowarmourcalculationworkswhichiskindaweirdtbh. Idon'tevenknowifIunderstandthatkeystoneright,butIthinkitworksthatway: Armourhasacertainthreshholdwhereitmitigates50%damageofahit,letssayforexamplewith10karmourumitigatea5khitfor50%,souonlygethitwith2,5k. Higherhitsthanthatwillgetmitigatedwayless,likea10khitget'smitigatedby25%orsomething,resultingin7,5kdamageincoming. Ifugethitfor1k,umitigate100%ofthedamage. Nowwithimbalancedguard,ifuhave10karmour,ucanmitigate50%damageofahitthat'sdoublethanbefore,sou'dmitigate50%froma10khit,resultingin5kincomingdamage. Butifugethitfor1kdamagenow,itonlymitigates50%aswell,sou'llstillgethitfor500damage. Thenumbersarenotcorrect,justforexplanation. That'smyunderstandingonhowitworks,butlikeIsaiditmightbewrong. Sobasicallytoanswerurquestion,kinda... Ifu'replanningonhavingalotofarmourandudon'thaveawaytomitigatesmallhitslikewith"lifeonblock"orflat-damageperhitIwouldn'tuseimbalancedguard. Ifurbuildisweakagainstmediumandbighits,becauseudon'thavealotofendurancechargesorotherwaysofphysicaldamagemitigation,imbalancedguardmightbegoodforu. LasteditedbySadaukaronSep18,2021,3:05:12AM PostedbySadaukaronSep18,2021,3:01:05AMQuotethisPost " Sadaukarwrote: TounderstandtheKeystoneufirstneedtounderstandhowarmourcalculationworkswhichiskindaweirdtbh. Idon'tevenknowifIunderstandthatkeystoneright,butIthinkitworksthatway: Armourhasacertainthreshholdwhereitmitigates50%damageofahit,letssayforexamplewith10karmourumitigatea5khitfor50%,souonlygethitwith2,5k. Higherhitsthanthatwillgetmitigatedwayless,likea10khitget'smitigatedby25%orsomething,resultingin7,5kdamageincoming. Ifugethitfor1k,umitigate100%ofthedamage. Nowwithimbalancedguard,ifuhave10karmour,ucanmitigate50%damageofahitthat'sdoublethanbefore,sou'dmitigate50%froma10khit,resultingin5kincomingdamage. Butifugethitfor1kdamagenow,itonlymitigates50%aswell,sou'llstillgethitfor500damage. Thenumbersarenotcorrect,justforexplanation. That'smyunderstandingonhowitworks,butlikeIsaiditmightbewrong. Sobasicallytoanswerurquestion,kinda... Ifu'replanningonhavingalotofarmourandudon'thaveawaytomitigatesmallhitslikewith"lifeonblock"orflat-damageperhitIwouldn'tuseimbalancedguard. Ifurbuildisweakagainstmediumandbighits,becauseudon'thavealotofendurancechargesorotherwaysofphysicaldamagemitigation,imbalancedguardmightbegoodforu. Thenumbersareindeedverywrong,butyouroverallunderstandingiscorrect. ImbalancedGuardmakesyoutakemoredamagefromallhitsthatyouwouldmitigatebyover50%anditmakesyoutakelessdamagefromallhitsthatyouwouldmitigatebylessthan50%. ThepointofgreatestbenefitfromImbalancedGuardisprobablyagainstthehighestdamagehitsthatstillallowyoutomitigatethemby50%,becausethehigherthehitdamagegoes,thelessthearmourisnoticableeitherway,evenifitisdoubled. Sotogiveanexamplewithcorrectnumbers,10karmourmitigates1kdamagehitsby50%.Hitsthatdeallessdamagethanthataremitigatedbymorethan50%. WithImbalancedGuard,hitsthatdeal2kdamageoranysmalleramountthanthataremitigatedby50%,includingtheonesbelow1kdamage. ButwithoutImbalancedGuard,hitsthatdeal2kdamagewouldonlybemitigatedby33.3%. Asitwasmentionedearlier,armourcanonlymitigateupto10%ofitsvalue,butrealisticallyyouwillonlygetaround7-9%evenagainsthighdamagehits,soyoushouldnotassumethatyouwillactuallyget10%ofthearmourvaluejustbecause10%isthetheoreticalmaximum. Itisworthnotingthatphysicaldamagereductioncanneverlowertheincomingdamagebymorethan90%.Soforthepreviousexampleof10karmour,hitsdealing~111.1damageorlesswouldnotbemitigatedbymorethan90%,evenwithoutImbalancedGuard. Hereisthewikiarticleforanyoneinterestedinreadingupontheactualarmourcalculation. 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